[TROM1] Pete re: Have you run RI on the meter ?

Pete Mclaughlin pete_mclaughlin_93555 at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 16 14:36:08 UTC 2014


Hi Dave

Thanks for replying.
I get the falling TA with the putting hands on things so that's the process for me till I can get one of the others to work.

Sincerely
Pete

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> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:39 AM, davcooke at virginbroadband.com.au wrote:
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> Hello Pete,
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> My experience of E-meter phenomena when running subjective RI is similar to Ralph's.  When I get mockups appearing - which may take a few tries - they read as falls or even blowdowns.  When RI is topped up the process stops getting TA and the needle is loose or floating.
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> There was an old stable datum from LRH (mentioned in Dianetics Today, for example) that the right havingness process for a particular pc would loosen their needle; if it tightened the needle it wasn't 'their' havingness process.
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> Cheers,
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> David
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>> On 16.03.2014 09:35, Pete Mclaughlin wrote:
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>> Hi Ralph
>> Thanks for responding.
>> I do not think I have a problem with the command to "create
>> something". At least it seems to be doable as I can create stuff all
>> around myself.
>> However the TA does go up.
>> When I rub my feet on the floor or hands on chest or legs the TA drops
>> rapidly from 5.5 to 3.3 in les than a minute.
>> Maybe I need to do the hands on RI till I get one of the subjective
>> commands to work.
>> Sincerely
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>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Ralph Clouse <sojourner452003 at yahoo.com>
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>>> Hi Pete
>>> While doing RI while on the meter,
>>> I find a slight fall, or more depending on the importance.
>>> Then more or less idling-floating.
>>> If your RI is topped up, no falls, just idling or F/N.
>>> The wider the meter action the better. If needle is tight, not
>>> moving much, more RI is needed,or incorect RI commands.
>>> Create is a charged item in the mind for many. Thus could cause
>>> higher TA, as you are going against " thou shalt not create" as
>>> Dennis mentions.
>>> Dennis Quote.
>>> "The word ‘create’ is for many an emotionally charged word, and
>>> these people will find the preceding commands easier. They mean the
>>> same thing."
>>> "In passing, those who have followed the theory so far will have
>>> realized that one sure way to louse a being up is to convince him
>>> that he cannot create. Once he is convinced of this lie he is, of
>>> course, trapped forever - not only in the universe, but in the
>>> compulsive playing of games. In the final instance only his
>>> creativity will free him. Thus, the ‘entrappers’ of this
>>> universe basically sing only one song: ‘Thou cannot create’.
>>> They don’t have to sing any others; this one is quite sufficient
>>> to do the trick. It's a mournful dirge and appears under a myriad
>>> guises."
>>> I would say you might try other RI commands on the meter, see how
>>> they run, till a nice loose needle, or Floating Needle.
>>> Keep on TROMing
>>> Ralph
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