[TROM1] Fwd: Trom Digest, Vol 90, Issue 12
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Thu Jan 19 06:32:05 UTC 2012
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> From: Paul Tipon <ptipon at proftitleserv.com>
> Date: January 18, 2012 10:26:42 PM PST
> To: leo.faulhaber at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 90, Issue 12
> Just want to remind you that the Theta-Mest-Theory is a theory.
> This is not
> derogatory, LRH call it a theory himself. Would real knowledge mean
> knowledgeable about a theory?
> Leo Faulhaber
> Hi Leo,
> I've been really busy and couldn't answer back right away.
> Yes, Theta-MEST is a theory. It couldn't be anything but. The
> reason I see for this is that Theta cannot be quantified whereas
> MEST can. There are also no absolutes as Ron says but that is
> wrong. In MEST there are absolutes with subjects and groups. A
> simple example is a round peg cannot be fit into a square hole.
> Geoffrey Filbert also said that things are an absolute under
> certain conditions in the MEST Universe.
> When it comes to Theta, we look at that as a static, a zero. A
> nothing at no place at any time or thru all time. To some degree
> that is an absolute but how does one compare apples to nothing,
> oranges to nothing. Therefore when one has the subject Theta-MEST,
> there is no discussion, there are no comparisons. All we know is
> that Theta does exist. What that existence is cannot be defined.
> There is discussion about what Theta can do and what Theta is
> capable of but that becomes very limited too. When you start at
> zero, a nothing, any change from that is on the order of 0 to
> infinity. Therefore any change is of infinite magnitude. Then one
> runs into the problem of quantifying infinity. It's quite a
> That has been Theta's biggest problem also. He knew he could do
> things. He knew he could be infinite cause in the MEST Universe
> and he proceeded on that basis. Theta ran into trouble when he
> realized there was also the idea of effect once something was
> cause. Theta never saw the need to have and use logic. It just
> wasn't necessary. It just was not in the cards for infinite
> cause. Without logic and understanding, Theta could not resolve
> the result of cause creates an effect. Theta and also one then
> sits in the whatever of the cause which is the effect and
> considers, that is not necessary to know about. After all I am
> infinite cause. Now we see the ultimate truth of ultimate power
> corrupts ultimately. Theta got to the corruption phase all in one
> step. The idea that one's effect does not matter. Theta just kept
> creating creating creating, being cause cause cause in the MEST
> Universe. Obviously that's how the MEST Universe got here and one
> of the reasons it just stays here and keeps getting bigger and
> bigger. Theta could not accept being the effect. He couldn't
> loose his creations and pushed against or pulled in effects at
> will. This action too has now manifest itself into more new
> problems. On and on down the spiral.
> With TROM, with Auditing with meditation with all sorts of
> practices one can get relief and at times go external to all but to
> stay external and be able to use one's abilities without getting
> into the downward spiral with no way to hop off, one must also know
> and understand the logic of the situation.
> Little did he realize nor was he concerned enough to realize, it's
> different this time, Hey! I'm working in the MEST Universe. This
> is where logic needs to come into play. Understanding of the
> situation in the MEST Universe needs to be considered and added
> into the logic, the equation. If you ever get to being just a
> Thetan again, remember, it does matter wherein and with what you
> are operating.
> After one's aberrations both voluntary and involuntary are
> eliminated, then one as Theta now needs to go all the way back and
> start from the beginning to know and then understand what here and
> now is going on. This is probably why Dennis with his TROM used
> the "Know to Mystery Scale'" as his final step, Level 5. Ron put
> it in terms of Theta reclaiming the use of his powers but now
> becoming smart and experienced. The all-powerful being rather
> stupid all the way up to this threshold and ready to step thru and
> I advise one and all to realize it is more than handling the mind.
> Once one no longer operates needing that appendage, one better use
> other abilities rather than solely, 'I'm all powerful'. If not,
> one will be right back into the quagmire.
> Theta is smart, he must come to the point of knowing that is an
> ability and must also be employed.
> Paul, Level 5 in progress
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