[TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1

alex martin jagowll at tiscali.it
Tue Dec 1 21:22:18 UTC 2009


hi everyone,
my experience with knowledgisme has been good.The theory Alan had  
discovered is great.I had realizations reading his books.But I found  
the limit in the fact that is a
processing that another person has to apply to you.Trom works  
perfectly as solo processing,if you can't find a twin.
I don't understand the criticism on Trom,without showing a solution ,  
after you have criticized it.
Knowledge is a process of continuing expansion and it never stops.I  
am thankful to Alan for his work.I am thankful to Dennis for his work  
too.
We create rhe world we live in , consciously or unconsciously.And we  
clear inner obstructions the outside world changes.
So you have to use tools to process yourself on solo , or you have  
someone else to run a processing on you.
Dennis said on one of his tapes that he is sorry for all the  
processors of the world, Trom is going to put them out of busisness !
If everyone play it on his own mind.
The next challenge for Trom will be the next future, will it survive  
the mind of the common people, or people will make it vanish ?
It would be a good thing to apply Trom by oneself and have the chance  
to receive Knowledgisme process in a separate time.
You are training your mind , so the more different exercises you make  
the more able is your mind.
As Alan says the formula to be a champion is study and practice,  
study and practice , study and practice till you get mastery.
The Life Force Particles as described by Alan , are the raw material  
on which we work with Trom.We recover life force particles , trapped  
in upset or incident of the past.
Life force particles are consciousness and energy, that is the only  
way to explain how they can drammatize an incident of the pat.Because  
we assigned and importance to
that incident of the past , they learned from that to duplicate it  
exactly.
These are my realization , reading both Dennis and Alan.
The job left to us is to discover how far we will go applying all  
this theory.
good work
alex.

Il giorno 01/dic/09, alle ore 13:00, trom-request at lists.newciv.org ha  
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> From: "Mickel" <mickel1234 at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> To: "Pete McLaughlin" <goldassayer at verizon.net>,	"The Resolution of
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> Hi Everyone
> I was doing some research on IFA this morning, an ancient religion  
> as I am interested in primal goals, polarities that sort of thing  
> when I came across this page:
> http://sandorian.us/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000245-000256.htm
> Message origionally by Ed Berwick.
>
> I met Alan some years ago at a meeting in London, a memorable  
> experience, I came out floating on air, it seemed.
>
> While I was studying Knowledgism I was able to achieve many things  
> I had not been able to before.
>
> My communication level improved considerably, I was able to achieve  
> accomplishments on a third Dynamic level I would never had thought  
> possible before that.
>
> I actually cleared up the area I live in from gangs/trouble makers,  
> went to meetings, contacted the right people and got my photograph  
> in the city newspaper.
>
> I still have many of his books, The Clean Slate procedure is an  
> excellent way of discovering MUs, confusions and to get a very good  
> understanding of a word.
>
> So sorry to hear of his passing away, he discovered some very good  
> tech, I always liked his mood drills and his SPIEPIR is very usable  
> for setting goals.
>
> SPIEPIR, Spirit, Perceive, Intend, Envision, Plan, Implement, Result.
>
> Best
> Mike
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> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:29:27 +1300
> From: "Leo Swart" <leoswart at xtra.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 64, Issue 16
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> I suggest one should be a tad wary of complexifying TROM. Just run  
> in its
> simple form will bring up all of these "chains" and "earlier similars"
> during the normal running of it. To go deliberately focussing on  
> certain
> types of incident within the existing pattern of postulates is  
> adventurous
> and unnecessary.
>
> leon
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:28:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ralph Clouse <sojourner452003 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> To: The Resolution of Mind list <trom at lists.newciv.org>
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> Hi Everyone
>
> Been on this list for quite some time but have not posted till now.
>
> As of late 2007, Alan Walter of knowlegism, had incorporated the  
> research of TROM into his technology.
>
> It was sad to hear he had passed. I was and am still am hopeful to  
> learn what his tech incorporation of TROM came up with.
>
> He had stated on ESMB that he had determined there were some bugs  
> in the application of TROM that he has resolved.
>
> He declared that his including the tech of TROM had finally allowed  
> him to complete his Games Matrix Tech.
>
> He was running a pilot program having highly trained auditors Co- 
> Audit to excellent results.
>
> Follow link to his write up regarding this :
>
> http://www.knowledgism.com/gamesmatrix/?
>
> He does not in this link credit TROM or Dennis Stevens. But he did  
> previously on this ESMB thread.
>
> http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=2241
>
>
> Alan has always seemed a bit full of hyperbole regarding his  
> dissertations, but you can get passed that, and he has valuable  
> tech contributions.
>
>
> Personally I had read TROM years ago, I found it quite interesting  
> but was not able to pursue it at the time.
>
> Earlier this year, during R3X ( an advanced form of Dianetics R3R )  
> auditing, I ended up at the bottom of a chain of incidents at a  
> Basic Basic first personal GPM on my track. It was the "To Know  
> package". This validated TROM Games Matrix theory to a large extent.
>
> I am currently not using Standard TROM procedure, though I will get  
> to it in the near future. Since having accessed this earliest track  
> area, I am doing Solo auditing in this Basic area, to uncover the  
> events-Postulates-considerations-mechanics involved in how it all  
> came to be.
>
> I am basically scouting the area. The majority of the charge having  
> been handled.
>
> Finding out for myself as it were.
>
> It continues to validate TROM Games Matrix Theory.??
>
>
> ?
> Ralph C.??
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Mickel <mickel1234 at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> From: Mickel <mickel1234 at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: [TROM1] Alan Walter
> To: "Pete McLaughlin" <goldassayer at verizon.net>, "The Resolution of  
> Mind  list" <trom at lists.newciv.org>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
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>
> Hi Everyone
> I was doing some research on IFA this morning, an
> ancient religion as I am interested in primal goals, polarities  
> that sort of
> thing when I came across this page:
> http://sandorian.us/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000245-000256.htm
> Message origionally by Ed Berwick.
> ?
> I met Alan some years ago at a meeting in London, a
> memorable experience, I came out floating on air, it seemed.
> ?
> While I was studying Knowledgism I was able to
> achieve many things I had not been able to before.
> ?
> My communication level improved considerably, I was
> able to achieve accomplishments on a third Dynamic level I would  
> never had
> thought possible before that.
> ?
> I actually cleared up the area I live in from
> gangs/trouble makers, went to meetings, contacted the right people  
> and got my
> photograph in the city newspaper.
> ?
> I still have many of his books, The Clean Slate
> procedure is an excellent way of discovering MUs, confusions and to  
> get a very
> good understanding of a word.
> ?
> So sorry to hear of his passing away, he discovered
> some very good tech, I always liked his mood drills and his SPIEPIR  
> is very
> usable for setting goals.
> ?
> SPIEPIR, Spirit, Perceive, Intend, Envision, Plan,
> Implement, Result.
> ?
> Best
> Mike
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