[TROM1] End Pheonomona of Level 3
dpelly at execulink.com
Sat Aug 8 14:49:55 UTC 2009
Your summary is the best summary that has been presented of TROM so
far, that I have seen anyway.
For several days prior and this morning in my meditation I was thinking
the same thing as you posted on disease that was caused by the/a
charged traumatic incident some time prior to the manifestation of
Then I opened my mail and saw your post.
I think we maybe on to something very significant.
PS, there were a couple of other enlightening posts since then also.
On 8-Aug-09, at 12:29 AM, Leôncio Madruga wrote:
> The following message is relayed to you by trom at lists.newciv.org
> Hi Pete
> You are doing a great job keeping TROM list alive and renewed.
> Some years ago there was a discussion on TROM list about End
> Phenomena in TROM. This theme comes and goes from time to time.
> From my point of view, TROM is just
> 1. A method to vanish our charges.
> 2. It has four main phases, labeled Level 2, 3, 4 and 5.
> 3. Each phase has two steps: Digging and Vanishing.
> 4. The Vanishing method is compound by the a lot of Timebreak +
> a lot of RI.
> 5. The digging method depends on the level
> a. On level 2 the digging method is ‘choose one event without
> charge’, and level 2 is a timebreak training level.
> b. On level 3 the digging method is ‘remember a charged scene or
> people’, and you will discharge just the dischargeable scenes (the
> others scenes, even more charged, will remain out of the
> c. On level 4 the digging method is ‘remember a scene where you
> felt …’ with 8 classes of overwhelms. Here you will do a deeper dig.
> Those deeper scenes will not irrupt easily. You should try over and
> over again, repeatedly.
> d. On level 5 the digging method is ‘remember a scene where you
> felt …’ with 8 classes of overwhelms and with 8 classes of games. Here
> you will dig really deeper, including those scenes with potential
> losses (those risky games not ended by overwhelms).
> So, there is not precise End Phenomena. The frontiers between those
> levels are too large. The perceptions of the charged scenes changes
> every day , every time, and floats up and down every moment. The best
> method is explained by Dennis: when you cannot remember any charged
> scene using the chosen method, jump to the next. We can see this on
> levels 4 and 5, when you jump to the next overwhelm class. The same
> concept applies from level 3 to 4 and from 4 to 5. The key point is,
> in my words: Remember a charged scene. If you do have one charged
> scene (remembered or already in action) right now, right here,
> timebrake it , before you get sicker. If you cannot remember for
> enough time, then choose the next ( a deeper one) method for your
> Trommers are, in fact, the bravest people. To face their problems
> without a help (i.e. enforcement) from a doctor or psychologist, or
> auditor requires a lot of courage, a lot of persistence and a lot of
> discipline. However, sometimes even we are afraid to face our problems
> and then we postpone our self-therapy with several excuses and
> If you do have a disease now then you charged a new scene before your
> disease began, and right now you do not remember that scene. Think
> about your disease or symptom and look for an emotional cause for your
> present disease, in some time before your disease began and timebreak
> everything that comes up.
> Keep tromming
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