[TROM1] End Pheonomona of Level 3

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Sat Aug 8 01:56:08 UTC 2009

Hi Pete,

I maybe mistaken but I sense that you are mixing in level 4 with level 3:

"The completion of Level Three signifies the end of your mind impinging upon you in session involuntarily. However, it will still be found to impinge upon you involuntarily in life to some degree - even if you are now capable of Timebreaking it back out of existence again as fast as it appears. You'll find that you just cannot maintain your state of inner stillness amidst the hurly-burly of life. Away from life and alone, you can by Timebreaking get yourself to a state of total peace and relaxation in a matter of minutes; but you'll find it difficult to maintain it while on the hoof, so to speak. Its now time to do something about this state of affairs. There's clearly still things in that thar mind of yours that you know not what of. This is the whole subject of Level Four."

Keep on TROMming

From: Pete McLaughlin 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 6:13 AM
To: The Resolution of Mind list 
Subject: Re: [TROM1] End Pheonomona of Level 3

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Hi David

  I had to reread the book many times before I could understand the level 5 chart and the to know material.  Re reading and re listening to what Dennis says will help you become familiar with the details TROM and meanings of words he uses and everything will eventually it will become understood.  

All the reading I did is now paying off as I understand the Boolean algebra and the X+(1-X)=1 formula etc that he is referring in these new supplemental lectures.

 Don't give up heart.  If you will persist it will become understandable and when it does you will be amazed at how simple it is and how nicely is explains the workings of life and this universe.


Keep on TROMing



-----Original Message-----
From: trom-bounces at lists.newciv.org [mailto:trom-bounces at lists.newciv.org]On Behalf Of David Pelly
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:58 PM
To: The Resolution of Mind list
Subject: Re: [TROM1] End Pheonomona of Level 3


Hi Peter,

I want to thank you for posting this. It helps. We need more of this kind of data.

I still can't get through the "know cycle". 

For one thing, how does it fit in with the SP/ PTS mechanism, where one is only effect? 

I am reading the book over again.

If I can't get my head wrapped around it, I will post again.

Maybe you can explain that in any event. 

Thanks again. 


On 7-Aug-09, at 2:41 PM, Pete McLaughlin wrote:

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Hi All
Dennis Stephens listed some specific end phenomena for level 3 that I am still working on reaching.

Dennis said: Here we go: During this Level, or the subsequent ones, youll find yourself occupying a viewpoint exterior to your body in present time; youll also find yourself occupying exterior viewpoints to the ones you occupied at the time during the past scenes. All this is quite normal. A being is natively capable of occupying any viewpoint he so desires in any scene, whether then or now. This ability is returning to you. Very soon youll be continuously operating your body in present time from a viewpoint exterior to it - simply because its more comfortable and natural to do so. (And youll do this despite the fact that science has conclusively proven that the ego is nothing more than a figment of the brain!)

Although the past will progressively vanish during this Level, nothing is being lost except the enforcement to view it; any part of your past that has been Timebroken can easily be brought back into existence once more merely by desiring to view it.

As you complete this Level you will get your first preview of Nirvana. For the first time you will feel free of your past, and no longer feel it pressing around you; the endless chatter of the mind will at last be still, and youll be able to experience the tranquility of utterly still beingness. Unless you actually recall something your past will remain in a state of total vanishment. This, again, is as it should be. If youve been connected to a skin galvanometer during your exercises, the completion of Level Three will show the instrument now sitting quite motionless at 12,500 ohms for a male, and 5,000 ohms for a female. The needle is quite calm and lifeless. Indeed, from this point onwards the skin galvanometer will never move much again. It has served its purpose, and can now, if you wish, be discarded. Your perception of change is now equal to or superior to that of the instrument.

However, Nirvana is still a long way off. But youve now got your feet a couple of rungs up the ladder, and know which direction the ladder is taking you. Level Four will get you up another couple of rungs, and give you an insight into how you ever managed to get a mind in the first place.

If you do not have an emeter use a volt-ohm meter you can get at radio shack to test your resistance. Use a couple of metal cans or chromed brass sink drain pipes will work to wrap your hands around. If your resistance is normal for you sex and you are feeling wonderful all day then you have reached the end of level 3 and are ready for level 4.

Dennis did not spend much time on how to run level 3. He started developing TROM in order to finish the GPM processes that he felt were incomplete from his auditing in Scientology. At that point he was already a certified Clear and a Class 8 auditor, which means he had all the auditing up to and including Class 8 auditing. He did not need to run levels 2 and 3.

Some points to consider.
Your Mind is a collection of thoughts. The thoughts are creative as in decisions to be, do or have or not be, do or have. Also your thoughts are in some cases in conflict with other thoughts that YOU have. Level five charts these conflicts as though they are with another person but both the postulate and the counter postulate are in your mind. What your opponent is postulating is immaterial to your problem of timebreaking the emotion and conflict in your mind. 

(As you realize this you will it easier to ignore others expectations of how you should behave or what you should be doing.)

At level 3 you are trying to find these conflicts and pull them from your subconscious where you cannot see them, to your conscious where you can see them and decide to let them go or release the conflict or timebreak the memory of the conflict till it is unimportant so you naturally let it go.

How can you find these conflicts? 

For the purposes of level three it is only the conflicts that are currently in restimulation that you are concerned about. You are after the easy to find upsets in you current life. As you go through you daily routine you run into conflict with the people in your life and get angry or griefy or fearful or apathetic. These emotions are the big red flag saying here is something to timebreak. 

The conflict from your subconscious mind has just been dragged halfway into view by the current situation that is similar to it. Ask yourself what is going on here? What is causing this emotional reaction to the now situation? What is the conflict in my mind about which I have a strong emotional reaction that has just been restimulated?
Coax this conflict into view as much as you can and timebreak the incident. You may not get it all the first time but that is alright. You have been having this problem for ages and it will come up again. Take as much as you can get each time and eventually you will get it all.

Do this all day every day. Dont wait till when you get a chance or have some free time available do it all day long as the situations arise. I have some very good wins where I woke during the night and realized my dream was about a conflict in my day time job or family relations. I timebreak it immediately and then go back to sleep. Do it now is the best way to get to the end of level 3.

Repeat this process on the next upset that occurs and the next and the next and eventually you will have eliminated all the easy to get, always in restimulation, conflicts in your mind. You will then find that your tone arm level or resistance is normal for your sex and you are walking around happy and unperturbed all day. This is the end phenomena for level 3.

Keep on TROMming

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