[TROM1] Question / correction

Pru Joy pru.joy at gmail.com
Tue Aug 4 07:41:14 UTC 2009


Hi David,

Yes, this is the "Catch 22" of all "L Ron Hubbard" derived processing - that
you need to remedy the physical ailments FIRST before you can proceed with
auditing.

 And I can understand why - as you really do need a LOT of mental attention
& optimum brain function to run such processes correctly.

And Dennis was VERY specific about that very necessity as per that excerpt
of "Do's & Don'ts" - he says "*You ignore them at your peril*" .

And hence why I was quite happy to let TROM go while I applied the
Transcendental Meditation.  I had read a LOT of independent research results
demonstrating improvement in both physical & mental function after using TM
for a few months.  And 4 months later I have found that it is also remedying
my whole "case" as well - an added bonus you could say.

Pru

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM, David Pelly <dpelly at execulink.com> wrote:

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> Hi Pru,
>
> Yes, I did receive your post yesterday but did not get around to replying.
>
>
> Part of my response to what you post,    I covered in my reply to Ant.
>
> From my research and experience, there is a lot more to this healing
> process that was is commonly known.
>
> That is why so many people are having problems with this processing and
> healing business.
>
>
>
> SEE MORE REPLY BELOW:
>
>
> On 2-Aug-09, at 7:53 PM, Pru Joy wrote:
>
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>> Hi David,
>>
>> I was interested to read that you suffer from significant "fatigue" as I
>> do also.  (I was diagnosed as having "Fibromyalgia" about 2 years ago.)
>>
>> I got up to Level 5 on TROM but then found that I really needed to remedy
>> my brain function before I could really "do it justice" as per
>> concentrating.
>>
>> It was around this time that Rudolph Eder sent me a Freezone Earth link to
>> TROM to clarify as to whether I was really "sessionable" - see pertinent
>> excerpt below:
>>
>>
>> PRACTICAL
>>
>>
>>
>> General
>>
>>
>> There is a short list of "Do’s and Don’ts" to guide you on your way. You
>> ignore them at your peril.
>> 1.
>> Don’t attempt the exercises while your body is tired, hungry, suffering
>> from disease or dietary deficiency, or  while under the influence of drugs
>> or medication (including alcohol).
>> 2.
>> The exercises are done with the bodys’ eyes open at all times.
>> 3.
>> Do the exercises alone, away from interruptions or distractions.
>>
>
> YES, I DID READ THE ABOVE.
>
> BUT THIS RAISES A DILEMNA.
>
> BARRING A DIETARY DEFICIENCY OR ENVIRONMENTAL DISEASE, ALL DISEASES ARE
> PSYCHOSOMATIC IN ORIGIN.
>
> SEE  www.germannewmedicine.ca
>
> I HAVE TAKEN THE COURSES ON THE GERMAN NEW MEDICINE. IT IS BASICALLY
> MEDICAL DIANETICS THAT GOES A WHOLE LOT FARTHER THAN DIANETICS.
>
>
> SO IF YOU HAVE A DISEASE OR ILLNESS  WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ABOVE
> MENTIONED, THEN HOW DO YOU GET BETTER IF THE SOLUTION IS SOME SORT OF
> PROCESSING AND RESOLUTION OF THE PSYCHOSOMATIC CAUSE ( STRESS ) ?
>
> I CAN WELL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A LIMIT.
>
> BUT WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS AND PROPER TRAINING  I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY A
> PERSON  COULDN'T DO  TROM, IF A PERSON HAD A MIND STRONG ENOUGH TO
> UNDERSTAND AND APPLY IT.
>
> IF THE CONDITION IS BEYOND  THE LIMITS OR ABILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL,  THEN
> THERE IS NEED OF A PROPERLY TRAINED AUDITOR, WHO IS ALSO PROPERLY TRAINED IN
> THE GERMAN NEW MEDICINE TECH.
>
> IN MY OWN CASE I USED TO HAVE CHRONIC BACK PROBLEMS FROM ABOUT  THE MID
> 80'S TO  ABOUT THE YR 2000.
>
> THEN ONCE I UNDERSTOOD THE CAUSE OF  BACK PROBLEMS  BY LEARNING THE TECH OF
> THE GERMAN NEW MEDICINE,  MY BACK PROBLEMS WENT AWAY IN A FEW DAYS.
>
> THE CAUSE OF BACK AND STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS IS THE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND OR
> EMOTIONAL FEELING   THAT ONE IS CARRYING AROUND TO MANY PROBLEMS ON ONE'S
> SHOULDERS, AS IF THE FEELING OF HAVING THE WHOLE WORLD ON ONE'S SHOULDERS.
>
> THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL  WEIGHT WEAKENS THE BONE AND  MUSCLE STRUCTURE.
>
> IN OTHER WORDS IF ONE THINKS THAT HE IS SMALLER THAN HIS PROBLEMS THAN HIS
> SKELETON  WILL GIVE UP.
>
> IF ONE KEEPS IN MIND THAT  HE IS BIGGER THAN HIS PROBLEMS HIS SKELETON WILL
>  REMAIN STRONG.
>
> THAT IS JUST ONE EASY OR SIMPLE EXAMPLE OF  PSYCHOLOGICAL CAUSE AND EFFECT.
>
>
>
>
>> (Here's the actual link:  FZE TROM )
>>
>> The point that stood out to me was obviously #1 - I was stunned - I had
>> NEVER read this when reading through the whole of the TROM manuscript as per
>> Pete's website - maybe I missed it somehow (I'll have to go back & check if
>> it is there somewhere).
>>
>> Of course that excludes me from conducting the TROM exercises - JUST as I
>> was excluded from receiving auditing in the CofS for the same reasons
>> (although their original point of exclusion was having been treated by a
>> psychiatrist & hence an "Illegal PC").
>>
>> So perhaps you also would be excluded as per "being tired & suffering from
>> a disease" - just a thought.
>>
>> And, oh yes, I haven't continued TROM since that revelation.
>>
>> Pru
>> ps - I am very glad however that I took up Transcendental Meditation as a
>> "remedy" for my brain function - I continue to experience tangible gains
>> from meditating twice daily for the past 4 months - PLUS it doesn't
>> "exclude" me for ANY CONDITIONS maybe because it is NOT using the mind at
>> all - it is "resting" the mind.<unknown.gif>
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> YES,  GIVING THE BRAIN A REST DOES HELP.
>
> I DO SOME MEDITATION ALSO.
>
> THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT.
>
> DAVID
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