[TROM1] Question / correction

Martin Foster msfoster at telkomsa.net
Sun Aug 2 19:12:28 UTC 2009


Hi David - it's almost 9pm - 21:00hrs. What time is it where you are?

Re Nirvana and Clear. I think there can be many interpretations. But 
just as a reminder the following quotes are relevant - don't you think?

"However, never will you be entirely free of the necessity to run RI as 
an adjunct to the exercises until you’ve got to the very end of Level 
Five and achieved Nirvana."

AND:

"If this technology ever becomes lost to mankind it will only be because 
some faint hearts could not confront the horrors of Level Two, and so 
will change it all into something pleasant - and useless. Never miss it: 
Level Two is the only barrier that sits between mankind and the 
attaining of Nirvana. He cannot face Level Two, and so he goes to a 
separate therapist to help him through it - never realizing that by so 
doing he has negated his own responsibility in the matter, and so doomed 
himself to failure."

regards,

Martin

David Pelly wrote:
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> Hi Martin,
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> I acknowledge and thank you for your reply.
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>   SEE BELOW;
> On 2-Aug-09, at 2:17 PM, Martin Foster wrote:
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>> Dear David,
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>> Just reading TROM is a freeing action and from the para or two below
>> that you wrote it seems you are are having  change. Why not read it
>> through again and do lots of RI.  And - here comes an evaluation. -
>> Don't forget to give yourself a very well done on having read through
>> TROM and the changes you have brought about for yourself.
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> OK.
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>> All the abuse or invalidations one has suffered throughout many
>> lifetimes are centred on convincing one that one cannot create.
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> I GOT THAT.
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>> Doing RI rehabilitates and re-asserts that one can create.
>>
>> Do lots of RI and when you feel up to it - start "time-breaking"
>> interspersed with RI.
>>
>> There is no status of Beingness in TROM, such as on the CoS bridge.
>> There are no TROM clears or OT's.
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> WELL IF NOT CLEARS,  DENNIS SAYS ONE WILL REACH NIRVANA.
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> THAT IS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF SAYING THE SAME THING,  FROM THE  WAY I 
> SEE IT.
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> NOT?
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> BY THE WAY, WHAT TIME IS IT IN SA NOW?
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>> Wishing you the very best David - You are and always will be your own
>> best auditor.
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>> Regards,
>>
>> Martin
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>>
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>> David Pelly wrote:
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>>> snipped:
>>> Over the last month or so, I think I have done most of level two, and
>>> I think; level three of TROM, just by being aware of releasing and
>>> looking at incidents and if an incident or rather a pattern or
>>> condition of anxiety, and related emotional disorders; "charge', would
>>> be restimulated, I would become aware of it and consciously release
>>> it, and it would release in great measure. This would occur while I
>>> was carrying on with my daily activities.
>>>
>>> Primarily while going for walks. I would connect with charge and it
>>> would release like volcanoes. This went on daily, for over a week.
>>>
>>> This went on with such intensity that I had no time for so called
>>> "time breaking", nor were there always any incidents in view, just a
>>> lot of charge.
>>>
>>> I would just be conscious of what was going on and be aware of present
>>> time and my environment.
>>>
>>> I was surprised that all this charge was not released by auditing.
>>>
>>> There is still some charge left, but it does not usually come up,
>>> except when I am in an restimulative environment.
>>>
>>> I think this charge build up, over the years, is what caused stomach
>>> ulcers and an abdominal hernia, around five or six years ago and
>>> continue to this day. These are very painful and problematic.
>>>
>>> This was quite beneficial. My ulcers and hernia are now not as
>>> reactive, meaning do not flare up as much.
>>>
>>> That part, for now at least, feels better.
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